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23 September 2006

Kleeneze: Just say no

Click to see ‘Kleeneze: Just say no’ in a variety of different sizesThe little Kleeneze man is today’s tinker. Dropping off a brochure of tat to be collected a couple of days later. In some ways he is to be pitied; the commission on a bottle of oven cleaner can’t be that much. How can the Kleeneze man hope to make minimum wage after hours of delivering and collecting?

It’s the simple economics of Kleeneze that almost certainly explains why the Kleeneze man gets so cross when people fail to leave out the catalogue. Ours has taken to pasting these notices on front doors so all the neighbours can see who has kept (more likely binned) it. But nobody is under any obligation to follow Kleeneze’s instructions and spend days considering their brochure of crap before lowering the tone of the neighbourhood by leaving it in a plastic bag on the doorstep.

It’s time to say no to Kleeneze. Bin the catalogue for the little man’s own good and send him to a more lucrative existance on the dole from where he may eventually be hoovered up onto to some government scheme and trained to do something useful.
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  1. Dave W says:

    So, here’s me expecting a preview of the Labour Party conference taking place on your doorstep and you go all Kleeneze on us. We don’t get these but we’re regularly bombarded with the Betterware catalogue, which is full of handy stuff like shoe tidies and plastic lids for milk bottles. Happy to say I’ve never ordered anything from it. The last time it landed on the doormat it was collected by an 8-year-old, who hammered on the door and told us “I’m helping me mam. Didya want owt?”

  2. loestearthman says:

    My mate Niall used to be homeless, and spent a few months selling the Big Issue. A bit later, back with a roof over his head, he picked up a Betterware round. He said selling the Big Issue was about fifty percent more profitable.

    I’m always torn by door-to-door stuff like this. On the one hand, it’s nice to see people with a bit of entrepreneurial spirit. On the other, if you’ve *got* entrepreneurial spirit you really should be entrepreneurializing at something slightly more ambitious than Kleeneze, which as you say basically consists of lining the company’s pockets in exchange for a pittance.

    On the other hand, door-to-doors are a complete pain in the arse, and I have a strong belief that people with pain-in-the-arse jobs should be mildly but persistently persecuted to encourage them to seek a career change.

  3. Michael says:

    I have a Kleeneze business and I enjoy what I do. I have a future and proud of that and also proud of Kleeneze as a company. How many British companies do you know of, that are over 80 years old? And still going strong?
    At least I will never get made redundant – ever again!
    Now I am happy to be able to set my own hours, targets and goals – instead of working like a dog for someone else’s goals.
    Granted, this is not everyone’s cup of tea, and you are entitled to your opinion; but for many people out there this is an alternative to traditional 9-5 work with good rewards. And it does appeal to people from all backgrounds and all walks of life.
    Kleeneze rewards those Distributors who choose to do more. They offer benefits including cash awards, recognition for a job well done, cars, holidays, etc etc.
    Visit our site http://www.kleeneze-people.co.uk for further information and I can set your mind straight.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Its terrible isn’t it, selling that oven cleaner for peanuts, what you haven’t grasped stephen is that when you have got 6000 distributors in your team doing the same as chris mason-paul the top distributor in the company does as well as selling other useful items(yes surpisingly people do buy the products!!)and has a turnover of £30 million(Kleeneze’s total turnover is approaching £100 million and growing) per annum earning £600k+ it must change your opinion that there is something worthwhile in doing it.The canny thing is that chris started just like everyone else as 1 distributor and built an organisation of 6000 people+ over a 15 year period,everyone has the same chance to do the same and expansion into europe and beyond who knows what earnings potential people will have in the future but even then some people will not get it.Wow!! what a career plan,what do you know of that will give you that opportunity with an initial modest investment of around £100,answer- NONE.

  5. Stephen Newton says:

    Goodness you guys make it sound like pyramid selling!

  6. Ray Reed says:

    Stephen a wise man always finds out all the FACTS before putting a subject down!Kleeneze is a great oppotunity for the 5% of the population who are not afaid to get off their arses and do some work, and this can be hard work but the rewards that are achiveable far outway the hard work. One thing that this business teaches us is to think positive and people like you who dwell on the negative will always fail. This business for my partner and I has turned on the light at the end of the tunnel after a long time off work sick. I sold my much loved Nikon F5 on ebay to get the money together to buy my kit. This enabled us to earn some money fisrt month £219 4 months it has grown to £647 after putting in over £2,000 worth of orders. You might want to seriously take a look at this business because this is the ultimate retirement plan.
    Anyway if you want anymore info please get in touch Regards Ray

  7. Bill says:

    Thought I’d throw in my tuppence…

    I’ve also been doing Kleeneze for a couple of years in my spare time. I now only deliver to regulars – i.e. customer who have bought from me in the past and have requested the catalogue again. I have no interest in leaving catalogues with people who don’t want to buy from it – where would the sense be in that!

    Does it take time to start earning a good profit? Well it dod take a while for me actually, but we have a new distributor in Bristol who picked up over £1000 in orders in his first week part time… Someone must be buying from the catalogues!

    Kleeneze can be seen as a way of earning a bit extra on the side, or as a serious long term business. All I can say is it’s working out well for me and my team!

  8. Caroline says:

    I also have a Kleeneze business. Been in for 4.1/2 years now and wouldn’t have it any other way. I personally know Chris & Wendy Mason-Paull and am proud to be part of their ‘Team’ I have a small team of my own (which is growing) and our biggest cheque so far is about £1,500. Not bad money for Part Time hours, although I am full time. I don’t spend all my time putting out and collecting in catalogues. I enjoy what I do and I have a customer base of 800 – 1,000 people. I retail approximately £500 – £800 per week and in the run up to Christmas it can be closer to £1,500 per week. There are definitely people buying from the catalogues and since we have Findel’s backing now (we are now the strongest funded Network Marketing Company in Europe) we will soon have even better items in the catalogue. Findel own Ace Gifts & Cards, Studio and Express Gifts. It’s going to get even better and I wouldn’t trade my Kleeneze business for anything. We have a fantastic T.E.A.M.

  9. Julian says:

    Absolutely fantastic, I have been promoted from an operating theatre nurse to a tinker. Certainly beats working for a living and going to a J.O.B (Jump Out of Bed, on a Journey Of Boredom to be Just Over Broke). As for selling pyramids, I find them very difficult to get into the car. Save your pity, its a very negative emotion. Wishing you the best of success in what ever you choose.

  10. Ren says:

    For all you people talking about the poor man delivering a bottle of oven cleaner, you might like to know that simple product, whether effective or not, produces a three pound gross profit. Don’t cry too much for those of us pounding the streets, because on average I make 75p for each letter box I visit, hhhmmmm, 75p x 450 houses = £337.50/day, is it any wonder I work six days a week. Yes I am that greedy! Oh and the best bit, I am a limited company and pay less tax than the average man in the street.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Oh why oh why do I keep coming across those websites that promise you the world…. their homepage usually consists of a very well tanned gillete guy with a beautiful girl by his side sitting on a boat.. and in the background you can see his mansion, his porsche etc… and in all these websites there is no mention of this dreaded company… you see, you have to fill in the wee form.. then you get an email that tells you that its Kleeneze… if so many people are so proud and are making a lot of money from them, why oh why do they never ever mention the company!!!!.. I do understand that there maybe people making money out of this bust I would like to no the actual ratio, as people I know made nothing, nada, zilch!!!

  12. no says:

    pyramid?? no. the guy ABOVE gavin scott earns less than me 3 below gavin.

    homepage not mention kleeneze?? NO
    because everyone sees the name and instantly thinks NO WAY.

    good money?? yes, if you can get through the millions of lazy a$$es that want to sit on their butts all day and get money from the government and find just a few good ones..

    PROBLEM?? YES, is that most people WILL NOT WORK for a living. thats why…..
    the WORKERS are a MINORITY, when it comes to going to see a doctor.
    (everyone should be self employd)
    millions of familys are claiming BILLIONS of pounds for sitting watching day time TV.

  13. eon boy says:

    ive just started out i started with 100 catalogs i lost 20 in the first week which gave me a wake up call hold on mate this is my profit . i got 200 pound of orders thats 21 pound x2 in the first week a doddle. i have customers who want me back so im gonna put in the hard work for a few months then sit back and take it easy with an established round…

  14. Mike says:

    I do Kleeneze and I wish I had done it years ago, the retail side is easy with the catalogues and once I got some regular customers it became easy money. I’ve recruited some others and they are delighted with the £200 – £300 a month they are making for their efforts and it will grow for them easily. They wanted to start small and they’ve been delighted with the outcome. I didn’t know what to expect but my income continues to grow as it never did before – and all part time too!!

  15. Peter says:

    I have done Kleeneze before, went very well for the first few months then went downhill fast.
    There is always a mountain to climb either some other agent drops a week before or after you do because you don’t have an area.
    Its a great feeling going to pick up your catalogues and find 2 or 3 on every step and a lot of abuse from the homeowners…NOT
    I had 5 in my team at my best and all of them quit.
    Good Luck. You Will Need It.

  16. Dave Burn says:

    I’ve got mate who does Kleeneze (his website is http://www.kleeneze-information.co.uk) and he earns about £2,000 per month part-time so it can’t be that bad!

  17. Anon says:

    My wife’s been doing Kleeneze for about six months now. Once you add up the fees and catalogue costs you will never earn a quarter of minimum wage for the time spent. Kleeneze even charge their employees a monthly fee to use the online ordering service!

    The only way to make money from kleeneze is probably to be one of their bloggers (see above) or website creators that they must employee to push the truth down the search engine listings.

  18. Gerald says:

    Once upon a time there was an embryo who became a walking living being, who unknown to him/her was about to be trained from birth to work.
    He/she will be trained to work all hours and be told completely what do for the rest of their lives.
    He /she will exchange all their precious time on this earth working for masters, they will be paid bits of paper and metal for for their efforts.
    They will then be kicked of the circuit for being a waste of time and effort, what this means is that the master will find another fool to replace the old one.
    As this system works very well (has done for thousands of years) we will not train our new embryos to become independent in any form otherwise we will not be the masters anymore.
    Life has so much to offer and when an opportunity comes around that can free you from the system or the 55year plan, then I suggest everyone take it, people are very slow in change but there are millions across the world now realising that there is somthing not quite right with the system.
    Watch out those who do not listen and learn, you will be left behind.
    Network marketing is here to stay, that’s why huge companies across the world are moving in favour of it.
    Think your in charge of your life, you had better take a good look in the mirror and when you have done that go to my website and do something before your dead.

  19. Stephen Newton says:

    Goodness me. Sounds like poor old Gerald’s in a bad place this Christmas.

  20. Jessica Mason-Paull says:

    I have enjoyed this discussion. The world is full of opportunities for those willing to chase them down.
    I advise anyone feeling the heat in the current economic climate to look more closely into any good work from home opportunity. Companies like Kleeneze are some of the few that do well at times like these. Good luck everyone!

  21. Anonymous says:

    In short having tried it for 4 months we found the cons far outweighed the pros.

    The pulling factors were that you could put in as many hours as you wished and got plenty of exercise from the rounds.

    However the cons were that once you took out the overheads and worked out your hourly rate of pay you`d probably fair better with a paper round.

    Admittedly a few people do seem to have become rich from this company however it appears to be mostly off the hard work of many “Team” members.

  22. gerard says:

    I am a kleeneze distributor too , and have been running my kleeneze business for the past 7 years , earn more money now than ever before and probably more than the lot of you. all of you people moanning about kleeneze have never done it or even looked in depth at the business , it is a business and should be run as such. if you have done kleeneze and it has not worked for you it’s probably because you didn’t want to work at it. do you think richard branson moanned and complained all of his life like you do??? no he got off his ass and worked hard and now he has the reward insted of still be working for a boss and moan moan moan…
    my kleeneze business turned over £106 000 in sales in 2008 on a part time basis. I am a very good friend of chris mason-paull the first kleeneze millionnaire…he used to iron trousers for 12years of his life…and now he hardly does any work…come on people get back to work for a boss and make him rich…you can moan until you retire and need an extra income…

  23. Hard Working Kleeneze Distributor says:

    I’ve been with Kleeneze a few short years. Myself & my wife work this business around our 3 daughters. We’ve just come back from a FREE holiday to Florida thanks to Kleeneze, and were off to the Caribbean with 134 other Kleeneze agents in 5 weeks. This business is wicked, it works for everyone who follows the system of their successful upline. Those lazy buggers who slate kleeneze will just follow the rest of the sheep up the hill. All those who have been slating kleeneze on any blog site, will probably find they are unemployed and lazy or about to lose their crappy JOB, Kleeneze is not for everyone, but then I would not want to be a school teacher, factory worker, manager of a store, nurse/doctor, stock broker or any other job out there. What’s more I get to spend every waking day with my 3 daughters and you just cannot get that in any JOB while still getting paid. So all you stupid idiots who choose to knock our company, just grow up, get a life (if you can afford it on your £12 per hour job) and stop wasting your time feeling pity for us. Let me pity you in 5 weeks when i’m in the caribbean with KLEENEZE…:-))

  24. paul says:

    did kleeneze a few years ago had to finish due to separation .with new partner now going to do kleeneze again cos i no it works so all you neg heads watch this space and get on with your 9 to 5 or e mail me and get your new life moving

  25. geoffrey says:

    kleenezee is well crap ben out last week put out about 200 books and made £0.00 so i lost my time for a week been out this week still nothing thay just say next time so is it worth the money no

  26. JONNY REX says:

    The Golden Rule in life is you will reap what you sow. The more you put into something the more you will get out of it. Kleeneze should be viewed as an Opportunity to start and build your own Business. Its not a fast buck and its not get rich kwik. Its about building a customer base, building a team and once established you WILL reap the harvest. The key in all this is Self-Discipline and Perseverence. Take a chance – its worth it.

  27. Anonymous says:

    I found distributors bullying tactics appauling. Will never go door to door selling again. People are not really interested and I believe the only success stories are from the people who keep harrassing the old dears in their homes. I live in a rich area and was sold the concept as a ‘little earner with no pressure’. Crap, if you want to make money get a proper job. Kleeneze reps think they are great business people. I thinks not. Just be careful.

  28. Ya says:

    I found very poor, people cannot probably succeed with anything in their life, they try to say anything bad about Kleeneze or about this industry…Look. If u cannot make it is your problem, go for dishwashing…hopefully u make it. But don’t try to prove the opposite of that it is not working. This industry can be for anyone but not for everyone. Makes me upset. If u cannot make it…just stand in front of your mirror and try to explain that to yourself why u r a looser. no need to write it down.
    I cannot imagine how Kleeneze cannot work…probably the people who failed. never understand that this business about relationship. with customers and the people u work with. u need to learn how to approach people…with this comments and attitude i would not work with u either. and if u thought u gonna get reach overnight and only with the catalogues…LOL At least do not put comments…LOL

  29. Ya says:

    By the way…comment like…Geoffrey in April. Sorry for being late. I just found this nonsense blog…
    He put out about 200 cats and made absolutely zero…he probably put that 200 cats out into the rubbish bin…it is NOT happening. 200 without any profit….c’mon.

  30. Thinker says:

    Hmm…..
    Almost without exception there is only one way to make a great deal of money, and that is to start your own business.

    Remember, …..that the people who tell you it cant be done are almost always unsuccessful themselves and the opinions of these people are not worthwhile.

  31. Lee Fisher says:

    Those that can will, those that can’t will complain about other’s that are making it work.

    Your oppinions should remain your own when you have such a narrow mind and view of things.

    Kleeneze works it is people that don’t.

    Products move, we earn commissions minimum of 21% – how we chose to make those products move is up to us.

    If you would like to really find out what is available to you as a Kleeneze Distributor then call 0845 519 0275 (24hrs) And I will explain how you can replicate what other members of my team have done £2,000+ per month.

    As for your same old pyramid selling arguement – that just proves your ignorance of business practices.

    By the way how do you make your money Stephen?

  32. lucy says:

    Geoffrey – I cant understand why you say you took a week to deliver and collect 200 brochures? If you picked them up with no orders change your area and try again. You wont get anything with the cataloues sitting in a box!delivering 200 took me about 2hours!

  33. lucy says:

    by the way – i have just done my first 200 ( a couple of hours worth) and have over 300 worth of orders…..

  34. peace y'all ! says:

    I’m fully qualified/experienced in strategic sales&marketing and fully versed on Kleeneze biz model so dont need selling on the concept. however…

    What really concerns me?
    - the venom/condescending tone that seeps from pro-Kleeneze folk (with the exception of a few) when other people offer an opinion/personal experience(which they’re entitled 2share).The strategy of the Pro-Kleeneze oozes DEFEND DEFEND DEFEND. My question to the pro-Kleeneze would be: if there’s nothing 2defend (i.e.”it is a viable business model &profits can be made” is the message), &you’re making money, then WHY DEFEND (with venom?) if there’s nothing to defend?. . . just continue to enjoy the fruits of your labour, but go easy on the defensive approach – its not a good look &speaks volumes at a deeper level-you’re a representative even when responding to something like this (food for thought perhaps?!). That all folks – happy earning (or not in some cases lol)

  35. Florian says:

    How can i join Kleneeze? I’m not from UK but i want to move there. As a student i want to start as a part-time Distributor.
    for Lee Fisher: is that a home phone nr?

  36. Shaleskin says:

    I’ve just had someone come to mine earlier this morning to explain to me how the whole process works – simple enough.

    Now got to pay for first batch (200) and sign up fee which is going to cost me £171. This site has both good and bad reviews for the company. My only concern is making my money back… What % of people here made this back within 2 weeks?

  37. Anonymous says:

    Kleeneze is great ..

  38. Anonymous says:

    People are just lazy !!! Get of the dole and do something!!!

  39. Mark- Kleeneze Truth Report says:

    Wow nothing so interesting as Reading all those disgruntled distrubutors. Your numbers make fir very very interesting Reading. The truth us that Kleeneze fail to increase overall numbers year after year. The attrition rate is enormous !

    I feel truly for all the spirited entrepreneurs who are hard working and committed who fall foul of the truth.

    Do not listen to those who say quitters never win and all that BS, quitting us when you give up on your dreams quitting us when you stop trying, quitting us when you finally succumb to the walking dead.

    Don’t quit my friends, just move on!

    Regards

    Mark

  40. lyn says:

    I WAS BZ EXEC IN KLEENEZE AND MOVED TO AVON LAST YEAR AS I COULD NOT SEE A FUTURE FOR MYSELF WITH KZ.IF YOU CAN READ AND COUNT YOU CAN SEE THE FIGURES SLIDING YEAR ON YEAR.
    I MADE LOADS OF MONEY AND 2 INTERNATIONAL TRIPS IN THE 10 YEARS I WAS WITH THEM BUT ITS JUST NOT THE SAME NOW FOR ANYONE STARTING. AND BEFORE ANYONE SAYS “ITS PEOPLE WHO DON’T WORK” I JOINED AVON ALONE AND WENT EXEC WITH THEM IN 36 WEEKS.
    BEING A BUSINESS PERSON IS KNOWING WHEN TO CUT YOUR LOSSES AND MOVE ON.
    THE REASON KZ PEOPLE DEFEND THEMSELVES SO LOUDLY NOW IS TO STOP THEMSELVES HEARING THEIR OWN SUSPICIONS THAT ALL IS FAR FROM WELL. IT THEY HAVENT BEGUN TO WONDER WHY THE SHARE PRICE OF FINDEL HAS GONE FROM 7.80 THE DAY THEY BOUGHT KZ TO 23p now ,WELL GOOD LUCK TO THEM

  41. Anonymous says:

    hi, my brother did kz for 5 years, 3 of them trying to get a team together, you know the big dream, sports cars, islands with palm trees etc, its all bull! when we worked out all the costs and time ie sorting out and delivering cataloges, he was earning 79p an hour!! if you want a real future ask yourself what you like doing and follow that, go to college and learn!! door to door pyramid sales has always and will always be crap!

  42. Anonymous says:

    I am over the moon to hear kleenze has just lost 50% of its corporate share value following its sales report. I managed to get up to Gold Executive Distributor with an annual sales of 1 million. I thought I had achieved the dream. I was down to win the car and I had quailified for the big holiday. Then four days before christmas came the letter advising that Kleenze were not in a position to re register me. I couldn´t believe it. Then it all came home. All you have as a Kleenze distributor is a 12 month contract. It never occurred to me that I would not be re registered. Kleenzee is a massivie corporation with heartless corporate values. I was axed because I was clearly going to earn more in bonuses than I was worth. They have enough big names to bring in the punters. They do not need any more. How they can get away with the slogan run your own business from home defies logic. You are a sales rep with no wage on a 12 month contract. The props you need to sell come out of your pocket.

  43. Lucinda says:

    You got to Gold Exec in 12 months, wow, thats some going! You must be someone everyone in Kleeneze has heard of so, if your feelings are so strong why be ‘anonymous’? Surely if you want to slate a company/industry/profession and you have proof of wrong doing then you would make yourself known so that your story could be verified.

  44. Anonymous says:

    how do you earn your income stephen?

    would you like to find out more about the dole?

    I bet you work for other peoples dreams too!

  45. Gareth says:

    Peace Y’all – well said & I concur 100%

    With regards to Kleeneze – it works for me and my team. I look forward to a good future.

    I must say this though… it is rude to drop a catalogue through another’s door without asking permission. It is SO easy to knock a door and ask if they wish to receive it – and more profitable too.

    Keep enjoying Kleeneze everyone

  46. David says:

    Good God it is only a catalogue. Just place it outside your door if you do not want it. The folks are only trying to make money and not have to live off the state.
    There are Kleeneze people earning literally thousands a month and some a few hundred extra pounds.You are lucky you do not live on an estate where people are dealing drugs, then you would have something to moan about. Get a life.

  47. happyman says:

    Just spotted the comment from the person who says that Kleeneze would not allow him to reregister. I just do not believe that, there must be a very good reason if true, no way would they not reregister someone just because he/she is doing well!! Also all mlm companies have drop outs, it goes with the territory as not all people have the passion, tenacity,enthusiasm,dedication, patience to change their lives.

  48. Laura says:

    Kleeneze is the best thing that ever happened to me. My industry fell apart and so with no job prospects I was very glad of Kleeneze. The commission on a bottle of Oven Mate might not be much but on 100 bottles? That is lots :-)

  49. Anonymous says:

    Visit http://www.squidoo.com/why-kleeneze-can-make-you-cry to see real enlightenment. Kleeneze is not all the bells and whistles these people talk about. It goes much deeper than even they realise at the moment. You will not achieve success because it is a glorified pyramid scheme.

  50. Colin says:

    Having done Kleeneze for a while after being made redundant at 59 I can say it kept me fit and busy and while I didn’t exactly earn a lot then neither did I lose money. Others higher up the food chain than me were scooping it in from my efforts though.

    I’ve been there, seen the blurb, sat at the rah rah meetings and watched the meek swallow the constant theme with mild amusement. It is those who come on here saying how wonderful it is when in reality they are just mouthing the mantra while knowing deep down what claptrap it is. As for ‘taking it easy with an established round’ I can say from experience that doesn’t happen. People buy your tinkers tat for a while and then it drops off.

  51. kleeneze broke my heart says:

    i think kleeneze should be closed down for good they suck!

  52. DC says:

    Kleeneze works. It’s people who don’t work.
    I started Kleeneze in 1969 and then was warning more part time than my dad full time. I was a door to door salesman knocking doors presenting products, sharing a small square catalogue and picking up orders. Back then ‘unemployment’ was not a subject of discussion as there were plenty of jobs. There was not the pressure for women to go out to work and so many were at home. And because I was presenting not just a catalogue but also had a case of product samples and no competition sales were rife.
    Today things have changed for the better. We have mykleeneze.com websites and new people have the choice to join free or invest in a larger business kit. it is true that catalogue losses occur when letter boxing as you’ve know idea if the house is occupied, you don’t know if people want the book or not. But while you lose a few catalogues you gain customers many of whom remaining loyal to you and Kleeneze for years. My preferred method is as 40 years ago. Knocking and presenting. 25 new customers a day is an achievable target by anyone and if it’s maintained 5 days every week then that’s 500 new customers every 4 weeks. And if this is sustained then you’ll build a retail base that can earn you more than £4000 a month. You need to keep adding new customers to replace those you lose.
    Sharing the opportunity with others is where the money is. We look constantly for those with aspirations to join the 5%, those willing to graft until they achieve their goals. My site is 4abetterincome dot com if youre interested in finding out more.
    Thank you for sharing this site.

  53. Rachel says:

    They’ve just started delivering Kleeneze round my way, after years of being free of them. Strangely enough, a Betterware catalog appeared in the same week after a similarly welcome lengthy absence. Both went in the bin; I see it as a kindness, that’ll encourage them not to waste their or my time again. I hate all junk mail, but I reserve a particular loathing for junk mailers that have the cheek to ask for their rubbish back.

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